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Council rejects DUI ordinance that would fine for test refusals

Residents' objections sway council vote against measure

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Posted: Friday, February 7, 2014 3:24 pm | Updated: 3:26 pm, Fri Feb 7, 2014.

For residents who believe they have little influence in the decisions of their elected officials, they should have been at the Libby City Council meeting Monday for a vote on a proposed ordinance.

The proposal, brought to city leaders by Police Chief Jim Smith through City Attorney Jim Reintsma, would have fined motorists suspected of driving under the influence who refuse to consent to either a breath test or giving a blood specimen. The tests would be used to determine blood-alcohol levels. A similar ordinance was passed by city councils in Darby and Missoula, with the Missoula standard surviving a legal challenge.

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          • Discuss

          Welcome to the discussion.

          11 comments:

          • Be Real posted at 9:10 pm on Sun, Feb 9, 2014.

            Be Real Posts: 91

            This was a bad idea. It's an obvious money grab and it gives more power to police in a place where they already have too much. Would somebody care to explain how this represents Socialism? If anything, it's Fascism, which is the last thing Libby needs more of.

             
          • tuffenuff posted at 5:34 pm on Sun, Feb 9, 2014.

            tuffenuff Posts: 102

            She works in the courthouse, was Rumelharts twin for a while, married to Coral Cummings' son, being bragged up by Bischoof and Desch, you bet she's gonna run.

             
          • tracker posted at 9:59 pm on Sat, Feb 8, 2014.

            tracker Posts: 179

            Yes she does live in the city limits but she way to smart and balanced to run for city council. I think she would a welcome change over Bill and Peggy in 2015. MR I dont think very many good folks want to be part of the shade tree politics Lincoln Co has become famous for.

             
          • montanaraised posted at 5:18 pm on Sat, Feb 8, 2014.

            montanaraised Posts: 734

            If this Jennifer Nelson lady lives within the city limits, it looks like someone ought to see if she is interested in a city council position. Sounds like she has all her ducks in a row.

             
          • posted at 4:43 pm on Sat, Feb 8, 2014.

            Posts:

            Allen Olsen confirmed this information and brought it to the table at the Monday meeting. Reintsmug wasn't going to admit the truth if it hurt his position.

             
          • JustUS4All posted at 3:11 pm on Sat, Feb 8, 2014.

            JustUS4All Posts: 93

            It's very unfortunate that the WN will not publish what really occurred at the meeting that night, when Reitsma was asked point blank if the device they use to determine if an individual is legally intoxicated registers alcohol?

            He was reluctant to answer the lady speaking at the time she informed him she was a diabetic and she blows keytones which was exactly what the device registers on an individuals breath, not alcohol. She then asked him to look it up in the case law.......and none of this was reported on and it disappeared from the minutes of the meeting I'm told?

             
          • posted at 8:58 am on Sat, Feb 8, 2014.

            Posts:

            Not California, Chance and tracker. Darby Montana is the socialist role model that is influencing this type of legislation. Darby provided the impetus for the move to civil infractions, the attempt to put up surveillance cameras, and now this tripe. Ravalli County also has similar problems with their taxing authority.
            The important thing to remember is that this DUI law would have done absolutely NOTHING to make the streets safer. It was designed for control and revenue. History shows what happens when government looks on their subjects as mere revenue streams.
            Peggy Williams was just reacting to the request of little Jimmy Reintsma and Police Chief Smith. These two have been leading the authoritarian charge for some time now. The outrageous actions little Jimmy used to manipulate the election come out of the belief that the ruling class is above the law.
            When Bill Dirkes came to a council meeting to request that the new Noise Ordinance be enforced against the Mayors contractor, his car was towed. We have seen these brutal gestapo tactics escalate, and Olsen and Rob Hubbard have utilized the law to fight back.
            Our laws were designed to protect everyone, even protection from abuse of process, abuse BY the law.
            So we are seeing more efforts to change the law in ways that remove those protections by the ruling elite. By the way, those protections are called "rights". I am very encouraged to see more people stand up for their rights. This meeting and the meeting to discuss overtaxation showed that the public is getting tired of the abuse.

             
          • Chance the gardner posted at 5:41 am on Sat, Feb 8, 2014.

            Chance the gardner Posts: 1195

            I do Tracker , she reminds me of many California politicians , trying to legislate our lives ![wink]

             
          • tracker posted at 9:30 pm on Fri, Feb 7, 2014.

            tracker Posts: 179

            MR I was at a few of the ordinance meetings and I am surprised Bill voted against this. Maggie Anderson made a compelling statement involving Lincoln Co. drunk driving fatalities and even underage drinking and driving. Good for Jennifer Nelson and her info as well. Doug would have voted for it ABSOLUTELY. Otherwise he would have given credibility to the bowling alley theory and been called on it. Does anyone else see continued issues with Peggy Williams proposed ordinances and city zoning problems?

             
          • tracker posted at 9:15 pm on Fri, Feb 7, 2014.

            tracker Posts: 179

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          • montanaraised posted at 7:21 pm on Fri, Feb 7, 2014.

            montanaraised Posts: 734

            No doubt in my mind how Roll would have voted. Given the reports from the various bloggers both he and Bischoff love to get pickled out of their minds after the Council meetings. His no vote would have been self-serving but it would have been a no vote. Either that or he and Bischoff would be subject to a costly fine after one of the weekly binges at the bowling alley. At least that's what I have read on here, from people who seem to know, of where they get hammered on a weekly basis.